THE COURT: Well, I think it may be a good objection, but it is premature. https://www.mansonfamily.net/. Charles Manson and Watson had been on that property prior. OH! QUESTION: What happened to Christopher? I didn't know other drugstores existed for the first twelve years of my life. Billy wrestled in high school. Star, I've often wondered if the car was a graduation present, and that, even if Bill sold it, the money may have been his, or at least a portion of it?Grim, for me what Bill was doing for the months before August 8 is simply background. According to the Columbus Citizen Journal, (1970), Bill Garretson's mother, Mary, said Bill left Lancaster Ohio in October 1968 for California. QUESTION: Do you know the date in August? Her employer, Gray Drug, was founded in Cleveland, Ohio, in 1912. As David/Dreath often has put it, damned fine lawyering. QUESTION: Do you recall it being brisk, or did it appear to be a typical August evening? I could not distinguish if he was barking any louder than he generally was any other night. What did he do, and how did he support himself? ANSWER: Yes. Prosecution witness William Garretson was born on August 24, 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio. Have you heard people talking, just one another in the vicinity of the pool, not necessarily did you hear any particular After that, Google took me to her obituary. QUESTION: Well, if you were in another room of your guest house, could you have heard it? A more important question is ~ what did he do with the shirt he was given ? pete. William Garretson, called as a witness by and on behalf of the People, was examined and testified as follows: QUESTION: Where do you presently reside, Mr. Garretson? He lived on the property, but somehow escaped the murderers. Miriam Frazier Parsons. Immediately, the cops assumed they had caught the murderer and cuffed William, then paraded him past . QUESTION: Would you indicate, sir, on the diagram where the couch was in relation to that stereo? Maybe use your VPN and don't slip up and give away any unnecessary info. "And he knew a lot of movie star agents, but he wanted to say bye to California after that was all over with and he never went back except for his trial.". I definitely remember Billy's sleeping thru a bj story but the train part is for stronger minds lol. I noticed this at the same time I was reading Hillbilly Elegy recently. MR. BUGLIOSI: I have here another photograph appearing to depict the same interior portion of the living room. I must stress that these colleagues were all pretty much bottomless beer drinking pits. Marvin was bigger in '67. QUESTION: On the evening or the early morning hours of August the 13th after Steven Parent left your residence, did you hear Christopher barking? I think maybe you are confusing your cognitions with some sort of notion about "the truth.". Torque - it's just crazy to imagine. Where was Billy for those seven days after being released from jail? Casparus Garretson and his wife lived at Mill Creek Hundred, New Castle, De. Sherman was tough. Along with so many other individuals in this story, it helps me to better understand the environment in which these people found themselves.Brownrice, agreed. I'm probably just trying to say that Billy was most likely more ingratiated that many people believe. QUESTION: And then you were released from custody? QUESTION: Again, did you pay any particular attention to that? He was unharmed, lived close to the residence, and likely had keys inside, so it wasn't much of a surprise when William was booked for the murders. Buntline, yes thanks. He was the caretaker of the Polanski residence, 10050 Cielo Drive in Benedict Canyon, at the time of Sharon Tates murder by Tex Watson, Susan Atkins, and Patricia Krenwinkel. Mr. Bugliosi suggested I approach the bench before I ask the impeaching question. We have had (and still have) quite a few posters who write clearly and effectively (it would be invidious to single out anyone in particular). And check out Billy's answer to the last question. QUESTION: Were you friendly with any of the gardeners? It is another picture of the living room. She was Billy's second wife. The first inflation calculator that pops up on Google has that $20 or $30 for going to bed with someone for money while not being a "flatback" puts us more or less in the $300-$500 range from 1942 when she leaves prison thru 1946. QUESTION: But throughout the night you were awake? He later said that he had stayed up until the early morning hours listening to music until he passed out from exhaustion. Or computer by now. "He never had the chance to see the good and that's what's wrong with the prisoners in prison and the jail," she said. I can relate to your post, hearing "warsh" for "wash" lol. How did you become his rent boy? We have had other occasional attempts at creative writing, such as Fayez with his affected and incomprehensible attempts at literary output. Sometime after completing high school, Billy made the mistake of a lifetime when he hitchhiked from Ohio to Los Angeles. QUESTION: How did you get from the gate to the guest house, what route did you take? May it be marked Peoples 23 for identification? Buntline - Agree. Billy was a prime draft candidate until he married and became a father. In a moment, we'll discuss a second and just as interesting block of missing time at the end of Billy's stay in California and its possible effects on his eventual testimony. William Garretson's net worth Derr, however, saw Manson in a different light, particularly noting his childhood and how that affected his adult life. QUESTION: Did Mr. Parent engage in a conversation with you about the identity of two women within the main house? QUESTION: The next afternoon at approximately 4:25 in the afternoon, did you have a conversation with some police officers? Sandymount Strand! QUESTION: Does he appear to resemble this man? MR. SHINN: Move to strike the last portion of his answer as not responsive. He says a young woman got in contact with him just before 2000 who claimed she was Sharon Tate's baby and her name was Rosie Polanski. I doubt anyone in history ever slept thru a hummer beforeIt's hard to believe, true. ANSWER: No. They were more or less convinced that they had the person who committed the murders: me. Thought provoking comments today, sir. My internal dialogue is all over-caution and hey don't do that, dude. But spend a couple of minutes in Lancaster and you'll be like oh yeah okay I totally see it now. A newspaper article about her death described her as popular in town. Pete - Funny and succinct. Torque said it may cause one to wonder why Bill set out for California with only $1.85 in his pocket if he sold the Camaro. QUESTION: Would you please relate the chronology of what happened that day? Rudy Altobelli, hired a live-in caretaker named William Garretson to look after the property. On the 50th anniversary of the murders, many remember him as the only survivor, but also as, ultimately, the ninth victim of Charles Manson. MR. BUGLIOSI: Peoples 16 for identification. ANSWER: I know their name by Tom and Dave. Speculation and theories about Garretson suggest he was using drugs and an arresting officer said, he looked gone no life in his eyes. Star - I like your two questions about Billy, btw. . I think you have the right to go into it if there is any possibility of impeaching. QUESTION: You didnt realize that his name was Frykowski and that he was not related to Mr. Polanski? Maybe some of the Gen Z'ers too. All rights reserved. I really could not say. Los Angeles and its carnate representatives put the mind break on Billy from every angle. ANSWER: Yes, I seen Miss Folgers Firebird. Lots of Beverly Hillbillies actresses and heiresses using the pool with the help. Do you know what is shown in that photograph? Dating & Relationship status He is currently single. Maybe two counting when the police let him go. The attempt fails. ANSWER: No, not oh, from a distance, you know. MR. STOVITZ: Did you say a chilly TV dinner? QUESTION: Did they leave during the night or did they stay with you inside the living room? When questioned, Garretson said he was unaware of the murders until police burst into his bedroom and led him to the bloody bodies of Frokowski and Abigail Folger, lying on the lawn, and Steven Parent, slumped over the wheel of his car. It's not a stretch to wonder if things he experienced during that period might help us better understand the goings on at Cielo prior to the murders. Garretson, a 1967 Lancaster High graduate, was 19 years old and working as a caretaker at actress Sharon Tate's home at the time of her murder, along with six others. Maybe he peed on the floor, who knows. One I would have liked to ask Bill would be one that G&W has echoed here. QUESTION: And Mr. Parent left your house at approximately 12:45 am, is that right? I'm calling bs on that one. daughter. QUESTION: If you recall, when would they normally commence their barking? You might even have a story just like it to share with me in the comments. And Garretson does most of the talking. I have a friend who is a flower wholesaler. And he told me to shut up, they would show me. QUESTION: Did everything seem to be in order? Im not sure. MR. FITZGERALD: Your Honor and counsel, I have some matters that are properly beyond the scope of direct examination, but I think for convenience to the witness, I wonder if I might be allowed to take him as my witness? The mother told newspaper staff her son was mischievous as all kids are, but that he didn't like to hunt, fish or kill anything. Just kidding. Other choices existed. But believe me, it has been done ! ANSWER: The Words and The Mamas and Papas no, wait a minute Mama Cass and The Doors. A third Gypsy friend offered to give a neighborhood canine the "Bill Garretson" for a beer and a smoke!! QUESTION: What time was it that you actually went to bed, went to sleep that is? Helter Skelter: The True Story of the Manson Murders, Manson Exposed: A Reporter's 50-Year Journey into Madness and Murder, CHARLES MANSON: Helter Skelter; The Entire Life Story, Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties, Member of the Family: My Story of Charles Manson, Life Inside His Cult, and the Darkness That Ended the Sixties, The Long Prison Journey of Leslie Van Houten: Life Beyond the Cult, Manson: The Life and Times of Charles Manson, The Manson File: Myth and Reality of an Outlaw Shaman, Manson in His Own Words: The Shocking Confessions of The Most Dangerous Man Alive by Charles Manson. I know the story as it's told has Billy thumbing a ride to California sometime in 1968, but we are unable to produce an Ohio address for him between late spring of 1967 and early 1970. Bill Nelson in a Bruce Davis mask? At the end of the podcast #39, Garretson explains who this Rosie is that he keeps talking about. He was the only survivor of the slayings, and the attacks marred his life forever. Their son was born with a heart condition and he ended up dying after his third open-heart surgery. 3. ANSWER: I purchased a TV dinner and some cigarettes and some Pepsi-Cola. I do but didn't until I looked into his story. William Garretson, who moved back to his home town of Lancaster, Ohio after his arrest, was called as a witness by and on behalf of the People of the State of California v. Charles Manson, and testified in the trial on July 26, 1970. he was or anything. nize what that object is? ANSWER: Writing letters and listening to the stereo. A. Garretson and Bessie (John) Garretson. Sarah Garretson born 2 Mar 1753, married in 1773 to James Wickersham born 1743 5. There's no pool. Every young person loves living at home after they become adults. I just thought with all the time that'd passed, Billy probably had his stories under lock and key in his noggin. What's up, Bill?". Even with the stereo on in the guesthouse, it is extraordinary that Bill did not hear this. QUESTION: Do you recall what you did that evening, August 8, 1969, a Friday? QUESTION: What is shown in that photograph? MR. BUGLIOSI: Your Honor, I have here another photograph of the interior of a car. QUESTION: Do you believe you arose around 1:00 pm on that date, sir? ANSWER: Well, the Weimaraner left. QUESTION: I show you Peoples 23 for identification. I mean, not the line, the phone was dead. That is where I stayed the night. QUESTION: One of the dogs you were caring for, Mr. Garretson, was named Christopher, isnt that correct? QUESTION: Another photograph of the living room, is that correct? For his services he was paid $35 weekly and his responsibilities included caring for Altobelli's three dogs: two poodles and a Weimaraner. I read this blog partly for insight and partly for entertainment. He was the homosexual that Charles mentioned in a interview that sold him drugs and pornography on several occasions. Revenge. Maybe it took awhile to receive permission to leave town but Billy remained in California for a full week after the police release him before returning home to Ohio. The orders are so large that my friend's company delivers in a big diesel reefer truck that typically backs onto loading docks. Billy and Wife #1 have a child while living at this address. These folks have a few homes on the property but this is the main one we're talking about. Let's back up a bit. QUESTION: Did you pay any particular attention to whether there was noise or not? When Mrs. Polanski came back, yes, it was there. William A. Garretson, Jr., was born on June 29, 1927, in Long Beach, California, to Wm. May it be marked Peoples 21 for identification? the mystery of the caretaker at Cielo Drive, Just after midnight on August 9th, 1969, four members of the Manson Family approached the property at 10050 Cielo Drive in Benedict Canyon. QUESTION: How long would the gate stay open? Ann Garretson born 22 Feb 1750 4. Where is William Garretson today, on the 50th anniversary of the murders? May it be marked Peoples 22 for identification? Or, nineteen year old Billy decides to hitch to California to see the country he thinks he'll be drafted to defend before it's too late. QUESTION: I show you Peoples 18 for identification, Mr. Garretson. Nearby, a bloody towel covered the head of hairdresser Jay Sebring, her former boyfriend, who had been stabbed and shot. If you're wondering, I solve the mystery behind August 8th today, so make sure you read through until the end! QUESTION: Were you asked about dogs barking at that time, if you recall? QUESTION: For the sake of the record, was that Sharon Polanski? Billy is busted for lying right here and right now. He has no connection with these proceedings. Have you ever heard of a caretaker sharing the use of a private pool with his rich neighbors, aka the paying tenants, who live across the walk and can see him swimming? Shoutout to Linda up in Heaven for her kindness. QUESTION: There appears to be a stereo in the far left corner of this photograph. It was quite strange but not in the way you are describing. The Tate-LaBianca murders were a series of murders perpetrated by members of the Manson Family during August 8-10, 1969, in Los Angeles, California, United States, under the direction of Tex Watson and Charles Manson.The perpetrators killed six people on the night of August 8-9: pregnant actress Sharon Tate (whose unborn child died as a result) and her companions Jay Sebring, Abigail . ANSWER: You mean 7 or 8 around the pool or what? This person has not replied to me. Designed to look like a European cottage, it was first owned by the French actress Michele Morgan. Has never stopped. Charlie could be speaking of time with extended family when he's mentioning his hillbilly highlights just before this passage, but Kathleen had two sisters and a brother. Ohioan William Garretson, 19-years old, was living at 10050 Cielo Drive in posh Benedict Canyon, Bel Air, in the summer of 1969. ANSWER: They would start to barking well, it would take about 6 seconds before the visitor would come to the door. When the police arrived at 10050 Cielo Drive they were stunned by the carnage. MR. BUGLIOSI: May we approach the bench, Your Honor? Re: The Partisan, we're nearing the time of year when I play every version of Hallelujah I can find endlessly until New Year's. It does nothing but clutter up the record and make the case perhaps longer than 6 months. Even more shocking, was their discovery of 19 year old William Garretson, of the Lancaster, Ohio area, sitting unharmed and shirtless on a couch in the guesthouse. Other times, I think Tex was just another nail in Billy's coffin. QUESTION: How did you enter the premises at 10:00 pm, through the gate here as depicted in the diagram? Final point, Nan was a strict Nazarene. QUESTION: I see a couch with a white sheet over it. William Garretson, called as a witness by and on behalf of the defendants, was examined and testified as follows: Direct Examination by Mr. Fitzgerald. Derr described her ex-husband, who died in 2016, as a very good man, loving man, and cited those qualities as the reason she married him. I've surely told many lies in my life to make myself look better and therefore have no stones to cast at Charlie. Somewhat related, when they ask Billy during his polygraph if he ever had sex with a man, and Billy replies that he has, I notice that many researchers harmonize that statement with the blowjob tale. And lest I forget. Assistir Dortmund X RB Leipzig - Ao Vivo Grtis HD sem travar, sem anncios. This was his final address. Although copies of the newspaper were hard to come by during his tour in Vietnam, Groff happened to see one and described his shock of seeing a former classmate on the front page. William Garretson was the caretaker for the 10050 Cielo Drive House that Sharon and Roman were renting. QUESTION: I show you Peoples 17 for identification, Mr. Garretson, and draw your attention to the passengers side of the car. Billy's story should reinforce that belief if you already have it. We have estimated QUESTION: Dont did you have a conversation with him about that? Just like Cielo. You consent to our use of cookies if you continue to use this site. The pair were married for five years and had a son together, she said, adding that their son was born with a severe heart defect and died after his third open heart surgery. You know already that no one escapes this darkness unscathed. QUESTION: Did he take the radio with him when he left? (Sparkling Wine)? Magic lives in them. The proof is shown but the bench is still all, "Haha no way fuck you, Fitzgerald. In an Aug. 11, 1969, article, Garretson's mother told Eagle-Gazette staff she refused to believe her son committed the horrendous crime, citing that her son had only ever stolen some candy from a store as a child, but that all children do that. QUESTION: When you returned at approximately 10:00 pm, did you see anyone about the premises? Killers, germs, conversations. At 59, he is a big-rig truck driver. Didn't he claim he slept through a blowjob on a train? The pair were married for five years and had a son together, she said, adding that their son was born with a severe heart defect and died after his third open heart surgery. ANSWER: Well, he might have been in Italy, in Europe, yes. Death: February 04, 1810 (71) Adams, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania, United States. I'm not sure how long he was in LA before 8/8/69. Although she didn't know him well in school, she described him as a sweet boy, who was kind and quiet. Christy Snider-Bitler, another classmate, was also shocked to see Garretson on the headlines of newspapers and TVs across the country in 1969. QUESTION: Do you recall what you did that afternoon? York to Bedford. ANSWER: 10:30, 11:00 oclock. QUESTION: And he picked you up and drove you home; is that correct? QUESTION: I take it that he eventually left your guest house? Or maybe not. ANSWER: Well, I usually get up around 1:00 pm in the afternoon . We are not interested in what the witness usually did. QUESTION: Does this appear to be where you lived on the premises? The little boy his mom called so gentle he wouldn't hunt or fish because he didn't want to hurt animals, and the best advocate that little boy ever had. People may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. We recommend you to check the complete list of Famous People born on 24 August. He died not long after being released from prison. At the TLB trial, Bill was asked how exactly he landed the job at Cielo, and Bugliosi shot off an instant objection on the grounds of being outside of the scope of foundation.Although I cannot presently recall the source, Bill was said to have a 1968 Chevy Camaro parked back home in Lancaster as he set out to hitch across America in October 1968. MR. KANAREK: I object on the grounds of hearsay, Your Honor. MR. BUGLIOSI: You may resume the witness stand, sir. Remembering their son, Derrsaid she thought her son would be in theatre or an actor if he were still alive. And she was a guest at the pool at Cielo. View popular celebrities life details, birth signs and real ages. I would've starved to death. THE COURT: What part do you claim impeaches him? QUESTION: Did you say anything to Christopher when he started to bark and woke you up? Brother Luther at this time is still in prison for being half of the world's worst criminal duo ever with Kathleen. There's too much (hate) on this earth now, so Manson is at peace now, I hope.". You might think Billy was from the sticks and in a way you're right but his hometown of Lancaster, Ohio, is also basically becoming a distant burb of the state capital these days. There was no GI Bill yet. @ GreenWhite, I also live in the southern half of Ohio, in the eastern area. QUESTION: And you hitchhiked back, right? QUESTION: What were your duties out there on the premises? Linda and Billy were on the same high school yearbook page together. QUESTION: You had seen him on or about the premises? If you can believe it, six people lived in my town when I was born. But first, where was Billy before the dog watching gig that came with free rides from Folger family members? Manson's plan seemingly backfired, and William was released. Sound travels in strange and unexpected ways in those settings and what people in the area (Wm G. included) reported is entirely in line with reality. Since 2016, Billy is gone and it's possible barely anyone cares. Additionally, one of my distance cousins alive right now is married to one of Charlie's distant cousins. QUESTION: Police officers asked you about what you had heard or seen on Friday night and Saturday morning, August 8th and 9th? "I doubt anyone in history ever slept thru a hummer before but what do I know? More:Local resident adds 'strange' details about gory Manson killing spree, More:From the archives: Mother thinks son couldn't be killer, More:From the archives: Garretson freed in LA, Charles Manson, one of nation's most infamous mass killers, dead at 83. Billy Garreston, fresh from his senior year in Ohio, arrives in the City of Angels on the back of a turnip truck and drifts through a year or two of living on his journey to Rudi Altobelli. The list is endless. If this concerns you click read more. MR. KANAREK: It is immaterial. QUESTION: Did you consider these dogs, bearing in mind your experience with them, as watchdogs of any sort? If you find it again, please fill us in or put up a link.Whut. QUESTION: Did they leave the house at all during the night or did they stay with you the entire night? A carving fork was protruding from Leno LaBiancas stomach, and the word WAR was cut in his flesh. That leaves Kathleen's single remaining sister. Copyright 2023 Distractify. It's almost like trying to do the defence's work for them, 50 years down the line, because it's felt they made such a poor job of it. He was the caretaker of the Polanski residence, 10050 Cielo Drive in Benedict Canyon. Which is probably true anyway but whatever. They drove there with the explicit intention of killing as many people as they found there, stealing their money, and staging the scene to look as though black people had committed the murders. The trauma of what William witnessed led him to turn down multiple interview offers with the press that would have given him hundreds of thousands of dollars. The pair were married for five years and had a son together, she said, adding that their son was born with a severe heart defect and died after his third open heart surgery. MR. BUGLIOSI: Object, Your Honor, this is beyond the scope of the direct examination. Charlie's grandpa was also a railroad man and likely got Bill the job. The guards see the driver on the camera walking out of the toilet. QUESTION: When you went out earlier in the evening, you went down to Turners Drug Store, right? Garretson, then 19 and fresh from Ohio, served as caretaker and. QUESTION: You did not walk by the main house? 9:45 am Monday. QUESTION: And they didnt keep accurate time? QUESTION: In other words, you did not cross over the lawn area in front of the Polanski residence? QUESTION: Did he own the premises as far as you know? QUESTION: What about the day before, Sunday afternoon at 4:25 in the afternoon? QUESTION: Did you also know the gardeners? Garretson wound up suing the city for false arrest, false imprisonment, invasion of privacy and violation of his Constitutional rights. They said the more recent murders of a grocery chain owner Leno La Bianca, 44, and his wife Rosemary, 37, were those of a psychotic cashing in on the publicity of the so-called Tate murders. Plus, I hate to say it but I think my early Wesleyan training got to me. QUESTION: You dont recall whether it was chilly out or not, do you? QUESTION: Have you ever lived at the address, 10050 Cielo Drive in the City of Los Angeles? William Garretson. Tobiasragg, I stood at the hairpin turn on Cielo Drive last May and listened to my surroundings. Blog veteran Panamint Patty touches on Watson and Stubbs briefly here in this lovely. QUESTION: Did you hear any screams or hollers or yells that evening? QUESTION: Approximately how far is the couch from the door? ANSWER: Another one came and pointed another rifle, and then another one, and he was pointing a pistol, and he kicked in the door, and Christopher bit him on the leg. Billy possibly had one lucky day in his entire life and you know when I mean. ANSWER: I cannot recall the officers name or anything, that I spoke with. He passed away in 2016 after a battle with cancer, two years before Charles Manson would meet his demise in prison. In 1779 he married Mary Hammond, granddaughter of Daniel Hammond from England, and they lived in Warrington Township for 20 years. He described Garretson as everybody's friend, and a nice, quiet guy. William Place. I thought I'd try to add some paint to the outline already laid down herein and elsewhere. ANSWER: I dont understand what you mean. QUESTION: How loud were you playing your stereo? QUESTION: And you had a TV dinner in the other? QUESTION: Did you own a jacket at that time? starviego said:Torque said"At the TLB trial, Bill was asked how exactly he landed the job at Cielo, and Bugliosi shot off an instant objection" Now my conspiracy radar has been set off. She was a retired drug store cashier. I did not know who QUESTION: Would you describe it for the jury? We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. . MR. BUGLIOSI: Your Honor, may I put an X there and mark it stereo?. QUESTION: Have you ever seen them prior to today? And also was not from Lancaster. QUESTION: You can just answer that yes or no. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies.