makes troubleshooting easier. This means that you need 1.428 MW of production (of solar panels) and 100MJ of storage to provide 1 MW of power over one day-night cycle. If the only effect the mod has on the game is it changes the total length of one day, without changing the ratio of dusk: day: dawn: night, then the equation can be simplified as. The lake under the oil field looks like a nice place, letting you place offshore pumps near the center, with the turbines extending to land. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. They only work when they're above 500 C, and have a maximum temperature of 1000 C. Temperatures above 500 don't increase efficiency; the exchanger will just store the heat, which it can then use later. There's no clear ratio as you need to account for heat bonus from other reactors but it's quite easy to calculate yourself, if you fuel the reactors it will show you produced heat in MW (with bonus) you just sum up all reactors and divide by heat exchanger power (all power/power per 1 hear exchanger) to get the number, then you do the same for turbines (all power/power per 1 turbine). Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). u/asdjfsjhfkdjs calculated the convergents of 500:291, and found that 7 : 4 and 55 : 32 are both fairly accurate approximations. SmartAlec105 having more than 2 steam engines per boiler could do that. by azesmbog Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:19 pm, Post Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Finally, after 20 hours of work, I present the flowchart for Pyanodon Space Science! Your other big concern is fluid flow, and the main constraint is the heat flow along heat pipes. Factorio version: 0.17 - 1.1 Downloaded by: 6.01K users Summary Adds scaled up versions in different sizes for various pipes and pumps. One exchanger 3 storage tanks plus inf heat. by mrvn Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:45 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. The lake under the oil field looks like a nice place, letting you place offshore pumps near the center, with the turbines extending to land. The Factorio devs plan some refactoring for the upcoming version 0.17. This page was last edited on 13 September 2019, at 23:48. Each steam turbine take a maximum input of 60 units of 500 C steam per second and outputs 5.82 megawatts of electricity; the 5.8 megawatts listed on the tooltip is rounded. The heat can be used to convert water to steam using a heat exchanger and the steam can be consumed by steam turbines to produce power. P UMPING U NITS M EETING P HYSICS S TANDARDS This mod started off as a project to sustain my most eco-unfriendly excessive water needs by implementing some Higher Tier Offshore Pumps. This can be extended as far as you want; every additional 2 reactors will provide an additional 320 megawatts of heat output. Here are the total requirements for certain amounts of reactors, with everything rounded up to guarantee maximum energy production. You can check the usage on the turbines as well as the production stat on the offshore pump. A steam turbine consumes 60 units of steam per second, which is 5.82 MW. by Amarula Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:51 pm, Post The true maximally efficient layout is a 2 by X rectangle; this gives you access to every reactor. Stuck in a mission? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Valve Corporation. One offshore pump can supply 20 boilers and 40 steam engines. Yes, there is also a maximum throughput for water that depends on the distance the . You may also use this to rectify brownouts/blackouts. The glow of the heat pipes indicates temperature, with left ends being at the upper limit of 1000C. The above ratio can be calculated from information available in-game: One boiler consumes 1.8MW of fuel and produces energy stored in steam at 100% efficiency. 1 25k tank water disconnected from water input. However I want to do a different configuration and want to plan out how many of each type of component I need. Thus, they can buffer 500 MJ of heat energy across their working range of 500C to 1000C, and require 485 MJ of energy to warm up from 15C to 500C when initially placed. The main thing to remember is that Factorio generally follows the laws of thermodynamics; if your nuclear reactor produces 40 megawatts of heat, you can get a maximum of 40 megawatts of electricity out the other side. If I know how much energy i'm outputting from my reactors -> figure out how many turbines -> figure out how many heat exchangers -> How many pumps do I need? Ratio of reactors to whatever is 2x2 480MW reactor to 10MW heat exchanger, ratio of reactors to miners is 1:4 iirc, so double that miners, You will need 1x2 chunks space near water, so anywhere, maybe next to Oil Field's Uranium patch. Heat exchangers have a heat capacity of 1 MJ/C. Optimal ratio is 1 offshore pump for every 20 steam turbines; or, 25 offshore pumps for every 291 heat exchangers. A heat exchanger produces 10 MJ a second, therefore it produces 10MJ / 0.097MJ = 103.0927835 steam per second. (Low quality because reddit wouldn't let me upload the full png) redditads Promoted. The current optimal ratio is 1 offshore pump to 20 boilers to 40 steam engines. Each turbine consume 60 water/s so 1200/60=20 turbines. Heat exchangers will not produce steam until they reach 500C. Calculator for the Nuclear Reactor. 9.89 gigawatts is a lot. Mark IIIs are unable to complete a full cycle without going into meltdown and thus need to be shutdown mid-cycle in order to deal with the high amount of excess heat. This allows steam engines to be chained together. Steam that has a higher temperature than the maximum temperature of the steam engine (165C) is consumed at the normal rate (30 units/s), and does not yield more electricity. Ratio of heat exchangers to turbines is 1:2, don't bother building lots of pipes for 10% les turbines. Then you just connect the reactors to exchangers and exchangers to turbines, also you need about 1 water pump per 10 exchangers (in vanilla). 412.36 Water requires 1 ( 0.34) Offshore Pumps (1200 per Offshore Pump ). So a 2x2 block produces 480MW (4*3*40). and our Sushi Belt question : r/factorio. Don't ask me how that works.). A powered nuclear reactor outputs 40 megawatts of heat, plus an additional 40 megawatts for each powered nuclear reactor directly adjacent to it. What does clicking on an item's icon in the "Factory" tab do? The true value comes from the following facts: It takes 1 kilojoule of thermal energy to raise 5 units of water/steam 1 C, You've heated water from 15 C to 500 C; 500 - 15 = 485, Consuming steam in turbines gives you the same amount of energy back as electricity, Steam is consumed by steam turbines at a rate of 60 units/second. So you have 10 + 12 = 22 pipes. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Give exchanger max heat you can then let the exchanger turn 25k water into steam. (Except that you can potentially turn 8 gigajoules of uranium fuel cell into 40 gigajoules of heat. Heat exchangers have different dynamics to actual pipes. Click on an empty cell to place a nuclear power plant. I have been reading all about Nuclear power so I can convert my factory. Not sure where you got those numbers from, but in 0.15, small pumps and offshore pumps pump at exactly the same rate: 1200 fluid/s. However you did warn me: Save often and reload if necessary during landfilling. Thanks. It takes 200J to heat 1 unit of water by 1C. Community-run subreddit for the game Factorio made by Wube Software. Fresh water is at 15C while the steam produced by heat exchangers and consumed by steam turbines is at 500C, a difference of 485C, so you need 1 unit of water for each 97kJ, which is roughly 10.3 units per MJ. Additional comment actions. All rights reserved. Electricity has to be produced before it can be transferred to consumers over the electric system. can you post a screenshot/blueprint? Pump Ratio ^ 1. 20. Neighbor bonuses make nuclear very efficient: 1 reactor = 40MW = 4 exchangers = 7 turbines, 2 reactor = 160MW = 16 exchangers = 28 turbines, 4 reactor = 480MW = 48 exchangers = 83 turbines. by Honktown Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:56 pm, Post The steam production rate can also be calculated using the energy consumption: 1 Heat exchanger consumes 10MW, so it's putting 10,000,000 joule of energy into heating water/steam per second. by Honktown Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:30 pm, Post Doubled the heat capacity of water from 0.1kJ per degree per liter to 0.2kJ. A "close enough" ratio is 20:24:1 accumulators to solar panels to megawatts required (for example, a factory requiring 10 MW can be approximately entirely powered, day and night, by 200 accumulators and 240 solar panels - this approximation differs from optimal only in that it calls for 20 extra solar panels, which is negligible but remember that the difference between the "close enough" ratio and the optimal ratio increases as you add more solar panels). (100% neighbor bonus per adjacent reactor). Factorio version: 1.1 Downloaded by: 1.88K users WHAT IS OFFSHORE P.U.M.P.S.? Heat exchangers produce ~103 steam with a temperature of 500C every second. Now you have 0 waste of fuel. by leitk Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:29 am, Post One steam engine consumes 900kW of energy stored in steam, so each boiler can supply 2 steam engines: 1.8MW 0.9MW = 2. Press J to jump to the feed. In practice, there is. by gGeorg Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:00 am, Post There are mods that can add landfill tiles to existing blueprints if you're up for modding and using a blueprint rather than making your own reactor, and this design is one of my favourites - not objectively "best" perhaps, but has a certain elegance that I deeply appreciate alongside a decent serving of entirely respectable practicality. You can sideload water for a 1.1 GW plant. and another post in that thread (which calculates the solar panel to megawatt ratio in a different way). It produces 1200 units of water per second. Steam engines are the most basic electricity generator, available to the player at the start of the game. Is there any info about how much water per second Heat Exchangers use? by Honktown Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:52 pm, Post Also, the optimal ratio is: 1 offshore pump / 14 boilers / 10 steam engines is that 10 for each boiler? Includes pipe, pipe to ground, pump, offshore pump, heat pipe. That's actually just odd. So we know that one offshore pump can supply 20 boilers but is that the same for heat exchangers? How do you set up a reactor to get enough water to keep producing steam? I wasn't sure if Heat exchanger converts 1 water into 1 steam and there is nothing written in its tooltip. My own personal Factorio super-power - running out of power. The water calculation has me stumped. Exchanger outputs to 2 tanks. Look at the windows in the pipes, hover over the pipes! you can put 4 heat exchangers at the end of ~135 heat pipes, but you can put 16 heat exchangers only at the end of ~50 heat pipes. They represent the number of modules. Place some pipes or a tank at the end to see if there is really water coming through. by astroshak Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:58 am, Post The flow between pipes and heat exchangers is also different to pump to heat exchangers. 12. Do your pipes have water? And probably how many Offshore Pumps you need for them? The offshore pump produces water from a lake or ocean. If you overbuild reactors, you can end up wasting a lot of fuel cells without realizing it. by Honktown Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:34 pm, Post Each heat exchanger takes a maximum input 10 megawatts of heat and uses it to heat water into steam. Is steam able to reach all steam engines? The number of boilers can be derived from the number of steam engines: 40 2 = 20. In general, nuclear power is produced by the following production chain: Uranium ore is mined and processed to uranium-235 and uranium-238, then uranium fuel cells are created from the two. 120 MW ^Note: Pumps, Steam Turbines and Power are approximate for easier build ratios. The most heat exchangers I've been able to fit on a single length of heat pipe is 30 heat exchangers on 44 heat pipes; any more than that incurs significant heat loss. 15 - Factorio Factorio Forums View topic - 0. Privacy Policy. This link for calculations. Heat exchanger heats 15C water to 500C steam; It takes 0.2 kJ of burner energy to raise 1 water 1C; Steam is consumed by steam turbines at a rate of 60 units per second; (500C - 15C) 0.2 kJ 60 units = 5820 kW, or 5.82 MW. Factorio - The Best Nuclear Power Ratio To generate ten fuel cells, you will need one U-235 cell and nineteen U-238 cells. The technical implementation details of Factorio's pipe system still have some room for improvement. Change fluidbox height and base level of boiler, steam engine and pump to improve fluid flow. A perfect square of reactors has the highest theoretical efficiency, but at 3x3 and above you'll have reactors surrounded on all 4 sides and have no way to load the uranium fuel cells. which, given the default time lengths of: day = 12500/60 s; dawn or dusk = 5000/60 s; night = 2500/60 s, and the default: Solar_power = 60 kW; Accumulator_energy = 5 MJ = 5000 kJ, gives the optimal ratio of 0.84 accumulators per solar panel. Connect water tank to exchanger for exactly 25k units water. Ratio of reactors to whatever is 2x2 480MW reactor to 10MW heat exchanger, ratio of reactors to miners is 1:4 iirc, so double that miners. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Id probably put it on or next to either of the lakes in the middle north or middle south. Heat exchangers will not produce steam until they reach 500C. Each boiler is capable of producing enough 165C steam for two steam generators. Each heat exchanger converts 103 water to 103 steam, feeding 1.72 turbines. One steam engine consumes 30 steam per second, and one offshore pump produces 1200 water per second, so each offshore pump produces enough water to supply 40 steam engines: 1200 unit/s 30 units/s = 40. All rights reserved. But the water only gets heated up from 15C to 500C, so by 485C. You can also have some steam tanks with additional turbines for power spikes (laser turrets etc) as reactors always work with 100% power tanks will store steam when you're not using it all), Factorio Cheat Sheet - That's all the information you need. Final ratio: 25 offshore pumps : 291 heat exchangers : 500 steam turbines. Each heat exchanger converts 103 water to 103 steam, feeding 1.72 turbines. by mrvn Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:42 pm, Post 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