Also, by their fruits you shall know people. And Sobriety in any sense is not just for the addict but also for the many afflicted by the addict, such as the one that died in an accident. So, with my meetings with the woman I sponsored, I started out with repentance and I went through the 10 commandments, what sin is, and what it means to turn from sin. He has taught the Bible and preached in places as varied as Russia, Northern Ireland, Bhutan, and Egypt. For myself, I had adopted those parts which seemed convenient and not too difficult; the rest I disregarded. (Alcoholics Anonymous Big Book, pg.11). If you chose to eat ten candy bars every day and to never brush your teeth, they would start rotting out. Luke 12:47And that servant, which knew his lords will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. I previously completed step studies and attended CR as a participant. Subscribers receive full access to the archives. While tens of thousands flocked to campus, school officials met in a storage closet to make decisions that would honor what is happening.. We cannot trust our experiences and how we feel as a sole measure of something to be good. I know, for me, it wasn't hard to recite the 12 steps in solidarity at a . Hello Patrick, thanks for reading and commenting. God is good, all the time. The group leader has been through step studies multiple times and still struggles with her problems. Show me the Buddha worshiper or the person whos higher power is a rock, and I can pray that God will use me and give me the wisdom through His Spirit to share Gods Word and the Good News with that person. Celebrate Recovery is a biblical and balanced program that helps us overcome our hurts, hang-ups, and habits. Celebrate Recovery (CR) is a national, Christ-centered self-help program hosted by local churches to help people struggling with addiction or other life-controlling issues. 4. I encourage you to speak up and speak what the Holy Spirit has laid on your heart. In fact, there are many programs and practices that may appear to be beneficial to the mind and body, yet when we test those practices against the word of God, they are proven to be false. Jesus must be rescued from a pedestrian and parochial orthodoxy that demands he monopolize the deity.. (Pgs 8-9). First Baptist Church of Arnold (10.7 mi) 2012 Missouri State Road, Arnold, Missouri 63010 United States. 11AND SUCH WERE SOME OF YOU: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.(KJV). Also, during this time, I was able to minister to quite a few women, and also became a sponsor.. 1 Founded 25 years ago by pastor Rick Warren and the Saddleback Church in California, it started with just 43 people but now has groups in 29,000 churches all over the globe with more than 3.5 million . I am going to go through these areas, and will be sharing what I have learned, what I have personally gone through, and what the Lord, or YHWH, has shown me, through the guidance of His Spirit. 7Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I am the LORD(YHWH) your God. Im going through something similar at my job. I have gone and still go to CR meetings. To admit to be powerless over alcohol, does not address that it is a sin of drunkenness and a lust of the flesh, and needs to be repented of, as the Scriptures state, but rather that a combination of an allergy and mental obsession to bring a humility to sobriety. (KJV), 1 John 2:22Who is the liar, if it is not the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? If you are not familiar with Rick Warren and his apostasy, please check out the below 6 minute video from Good Fight Ministries, that exposes one aspect concerning Rick Warren : I attended CR for a year, and during that time I was instructed by the Spirit to not partake in the worship, as the music and worship came from Saddleback. The program seems to tip-toe around sin and evil instead of calling it out as such. Contact: Bob & Pam Bay. This program is not something that you complete and then all of sudden, Hey, Im better. This is a good read and that is what God has laid in my heart over the years of my addiction and recovery. Needless to say, CR has had a major influence on the church. Wilson was also not shy in expressing how he felt about Jesus/Yeshua Christ. According to Step 3, it is like opening a door, however is going in another way other than Yeshua (Joh 10:7), as a person submits to a higher power. This was a situation that I had never planned myself but was led through the Holy Spirit to go through and then lead others into the truths pertaining to these programs. Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore them gently. Willingness is the key. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted. None of these women, spoke to me again, nor did I ever go back to Celebrate Recovery, as my assignment there was done. If you need a program then check it out for yourself. Celebrate Recovery operates as an extension of Fellowship Bible Church, a unique congregation focused on healing. 1 Peter 1:13Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;14As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:15But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;16Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. However, we are commanded within the Scriptures to Hold fast to sound doctrine(2 Tim 1:13) and Test all things, holding on to what is good(1 Thes 5:21). I also, have experienced Gods grace and mercy through the Holy Spirit through some churches I have encountered that was amazing. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Dangers of self-sufficiency. Our staff is up-to-date and knowledgeable, and we are standing by to help you on your road to recovery. Spirit Word Church (8.9 mi) 4849 South Lindbergh, St. Louis, Missouri 63126 United States. One of the worst things that an individual can do in early recovery is jump headfirst into romance. Celebrate Recovery is a substance abuse recovery program based primarily on biblical teachings and the words and loving power of Jesus Christ. Thank you for sharing. Ive been attending CR (and volunteering on the welcome team ) for about a year. Modesty of the HeartWhere is your Treasure? It's your choice. About Of Dangers Recovery Celebrate I also would not introduce myself as a recovering alcoholic, but rather a recovered alcoholic, as to speak the former would be a lie against the work of the Holy Spirit in my life (1 Cor 6:9-11). I couldnt wrap my mind around the Beatitudes being misrepresented in the steps of CR. I had provided her some more truth concerning Rick Warren, but ultimately she did not understand what my purpose was there, and told me that I could not come back to Celebrate Recovery. Once the flesh is crucified it will no longer desire it. Thanks for your post. What partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? They meet at Family Life Church on Monday nights at . However, I knew what Yah had spoke to me, and He said that I shall be the first to speak. So with that said, we all have to start somewhere and often its on the wrong path before we truly find our Lord. We believe that this program targets the one thing that we all have in commonwe're all messed up in one way or another. From that point on, I cannot recall all that I spoke, however, I remember the power of the Holy Spirit was so strong, that not only did I literally believe that time was stopped for me to speak, but I could feel all the demons around me being held back and I was engulfed in this protective shell. To produce good fruit, a practice or program has to be sound in the word of God. They have been talking up the step study lately and there is pressure to join. Having said that, this review (completed largely with the help of Matthew Mumma) will demonstrate that CR contains two major problems: (1) Though claiming to be biblically based, its teachings are often constructed from a misuse of Scripture and an erroneous hermeneutic. Celebrate Recovery is a Christ-centered 12-step program designed for all "hurts, hangups, and habits," including those caused by emotional, mental, and spiritual dysfunction.As one of the seven largest addiction recovery support programs, Celebrate Recovery is designed to be a confidential place where attendees can work through their "stuff" in a safe and God-honoring place. It can come as a shock to many individuals to discover that the good times can also be a test as well. It may use terms like god, creator, higher power, however, the god and creator that they speak is not that of Jesus/Yeshua. It is a welcoming community and provided a perfect place for our retreat. Anxiety causes us to waste precious energy dealing with past hurts hiding stuff and fear of being found inept kept me from present Hiding kept me Change can only happen in the present . A new state of consciousness and being is received as a free gift. from the intoxicating influences of sin (like the impact of selfish passion, greed, etc.). And theres many avenues to recover. Excerpts and links may be used, provided that full and clear credit is given to author and APearlinthevineyard.com with appropriate and specific direction to the original content. The phrase do not throw out the baby with the bathwater, with regards to programs and practices like AA/CR, is overriding several biblical commands to come away from such. We become free from our addictive, compulsive, and dysfunctional behaviors. Celebrate Recovery is a proven 25+ year old Christ-based 12-step program based on the Beatitudes. While I want everyone to come to know Jesus Christ our Lord, it is ultimately their decision. Please check directly with each church to find out if they are running during Covid-19. (Luke 9:23) In such, our reward, or our treasures will be laid up greater in heaven. Your email address will not be published. Is it a sin for a Christian to drink alcohol / wine? I did not understand that this was a New Age practice, which was to focus on specific auras coming from different points of my body. Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? Believing you are finally cured of your addiction. However, unlike negative energy that simply attaches itself and hovers over us like a dark cloud, energetic parasites feed on our energy. 10The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.(KJV). Step 12, not only speaks of New Age enlightenment, but blasphemes the true free gift, that of salvation, as well as the responsibility for a believer to share and take the gospel message to all, not the AA message. Romans 12:1. We are here for you online 24/7! Wilson, or Bob for that matter, never professed Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, never mentioned repentance, or that the only Way to the Father is through the Son. If you have a drinking problem in 2014, or a drug problem, or a gambling problem, your medically, socially, culturally, and politically mandated solution is a set of 12 . Some Celebrate Recovery groups offer childcare, Celebration Place for kids and The Landing for youth. All those in A.A. are "recovering" alcoholics, who, according to A.A., never completely recover. Happy are those who know they are spiritutally poor. Theyre always there to help somebody if theyre struggling. Celebrate Recovery gives the support and love that so many churches fail at. St Boniface Church-Franciscans. 8All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. Those who profess to be a believer in Jesus/Yeshua should repent of any and all involvement, and get rid of any material associated, to include: books, chips, manuals, etc. After the meeting was over, all the women left, did not say anything to me, just turned their backs and left. Jun 12, 2015 - Explore Raquel Aguillon's board "Celebrate Recovery ", followed by 229 people on Pinterest. Get the most recent headlines and stories from Christianity Today delivered to your inbox daily. From that point forward, I was actually prohibited from bringing or reading my Bible in the group. This is an excerpt from one of my blogs The Deception of the New Age Awakening through DNA, The New Age movement is not a conspiracy but an eclectic configuration of spiritual seekers who have despaired of finding personal and cosmic satisfaction in either religious orthodoxies or secular materialism. A sister meeting called The Landing is available for students in grades 7 and up. Every week we state that we make decisions based on the truth. It's important to realize relapse is more of a process as opposed to a mere lapse in judgment. (Pg 5), Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God, as we understood Him.Step Three is like opening of a locked door. I also believe in the deliverence of it. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. A.A. teaches that alcoholism is a disease for which there is no ultimate cure. It is for anyone who has a "hurt, hang-up, or habit" within the community at large or our own church body - not restricted to only people struggling with an addiction. Alcoholism is not a disease. So, with my final mission in view, with bible in hand, I walked into Celebrate Recovery for the last time. The most common reason why people relapse after a period of sobriety is that they become stuck in recovery. See more ideas about celebrate recovery, recovery, recovery quotes. Get our Question of the Week delivered right to your inbox! I brought up that step three goes against the first two of the 10 commandments, and that there shall be no other gods before Him. I dont agree with that. Thank you for sharing, and I am glad that you have had your eyes opened to the deceptiveness of this program. Within AA, the introduction is similar in the person identifies as their addiction, My Name is, and I am a drug addict/alcoholic. This is why I stress within my blog that this is leading people to accept a different gospel. It means that the individual is returning to old ineffective coping strategies for dealing with life. Dangers of Celebratory Occasions in Recovery Most people in recovery will be prepared for their sobriety to be tested when times are hard. Once we have knowledge of the truth, then we are held accountable to that truth. Romantic relationships can be a great source of happiness in sobriety, but they can also be the source of great pain. AA is just another false religion, trying to go in another way: We have no desire to convince anyone that there is only one way by which faith can be acquired(Alcoholics Anonymous Big Book, pg. Celebrate Recovery is just another type ofSyncretism, as mixes Gods ways with heathen ways. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. Analyzing Celebrate Recovery (C.R.) Whether you choose a Christian rehab center that uses the Celebrate Recovery program or follow a different approach, you can find the help you need to live a sober life. 2 Corinthians 6:14-16 I take comfort in the thought that as John enters the presence of his Lord, he will hear the words, Great, Johnyou did it!. Importance of an open mind. While growing up, I was familiar with the term AA and Alanon, as my grandfather was an alcoholic, as well as other family members. It wasnt until I became a facilitator that I began questioning the program. And He came to set the captives free! Isnt God sovereign? I will say too, that these programs do sometimes act as a religion and Ive seen that for myself, but just as when I go to church or study my Bible, I have to let God guide me away from the false preachings and allow Him to give the message that is meant for me. Over the years, many celebrities have chosen to use their voices and their platforms to speak openly . 20 years ago, Saddleback Church launched Celebrate Recovery with 43 people. I can assure you, that it is not the Holy Spirit. Are these 12 steps in alignment with the Scriptures? To become truly sober, or sober-minded, is not just abstaining from toxic substances from the physical body, but also toxic doctrines from the mind/heart. If so, then I challenge you to put your emotions aside from the program, and dig into the Word. How shall we let God into our lives? The Celebrate Recovery Bible on Kindle, iBooks and Nook are also approved curriculum. Every meeting, except my last, I was always led to open my Word and read directly from it. I hope you consider and pray on the things I have brought up, and really examine this program to see if it truly aligns with the word of God. Jim, thank you for your comment. The Danger of Teaching Information Without Application By Rick Warren I believe the number one problem with preaching in America is its lack of application. C. C.R. What does the Bible say about addiction. Would you disagree that we should take God/YHWH at His Word if we profess to walk in His truth? Leviticus 19:31Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD(YHWH) your God. Christian Fellowship has an active missions program. There were many practices/beliefs that I was led to not partake in. Some Celebrate Recovery groups offer childcare: "Celebration Place" for kids and "The Landing" for youth. 48But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. While your experiences, are your experiences, they should never override that of sound doctrine. Continued on with my story above, I started to attend Celebrate Recovery(CR), as prompted by the Spirit, even with the knowledge that it was a program that was directly tied to Rick Warren and Saddleback church: John Baker was an alcoholic and staff member of Saddleback Church who began healing through Alcoholics Anonymous. This immediately goes against the first 2 of the 10 commandments, as it promotes the worship of any or all other gods, and idolatry(Ex 20:3-6). Once you know better, you do better. Lost faith found in A.A. The ouija board got moving in earnest. Bakers ministry began in 1991 at Saddleback Church in California and has spread to 35,000 churches nationwide over the decades. 8,093 talking about this. Celebrate Recovery IS: A safe place to share; A place of refuge; A place of belonging; A place to care for others and be cared for; A place where respect is given to each member; A place where confidentiality is highly regarded; A place to learn; A place to demonstrate genuine love; A place to grow and become strong again; A place for progress 3525 /nph (be sober, unintoxicated) refers to having presence of mind (clear judgment), enabling someone to be temperate (self-controlled). It is for people with hurts, habits and hangups they simply cannot overcome in their own strength. With 40% to 60% of those with a substance use disorder who receive treatment relapsing within the first year, some people even refer to relapse as a natural part of recovery. Celebrate Recovery (CR) meets at 6 p.m. Saturdays at Good Shepherd Church, 2341 S. Military Trail, West Palm Beach, featuring dinner, a big meeting and small open share groups. So, I hope that in sharing the truth with people within AA, you are not identifying with this. What is spiritual awakening? I prayed about matters, and asked Him what His will was for me to do, and how to instruct this woman. While a lapse can be a single event such as a poor decision of going . Official page of Celebrate Recovery. Read reviews, compare customer ratings, see screenshots, and learn more about Celebrate Recovery. There is simply no way to put into words how I love John and will miss this kind, creative, brilliant and faithful man., Evangelical leader Johnnie Moore, whose family previously belonged to Saddleback Church when living in California, remembered Bakers commitment to saving the lives of the people whom God loves., He became a doctor of hope for those whose lives were caught in vicious cycles of guilt, shame, and failure. "This is a great place to hold an event. Celebrate Recoverys 12-steps, are AAs 12-steps, but with a biblical comparison to each one. There is nothing greater than the blood of the Lamb, the true Creator of the Heavens of the earth, and the King of Kings Lord of Lords, Yeshua. It was still a deep tissue massage, which helped me to relax, and relive my sore muscles, however, I was engaging in a practice that is contrary to biblical practices. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more. They'll say, "I don't know anybody that doesn't need recovery" where I often chimed in, "I don't know anyone who doesn't need Jesus." Rom 6:23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord(BSB), Mark 16:15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature(KJV), 1 Cor 6:20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are Gods(KJV). (As well as: 1 Thes 5:6, 8, 2 Tim 4:5, 1 Peter 1:13, 1 Peter 4:7). for the living to the dead?(KJV). Recovery signals a dramatic shift in the expectation for positive outcomes for individuals who experience mental and substance use conditions or the co-occurring of the two. It is a tactic of the enemy within the thoughts of men to say well, how can this be bad, if I have seen good in it. Because even darkness can appear as something good, that is why Eve took a bite of the forbidden fruit. So, if you are sharing the truth about Gods Word, and how it contradicts the doctrine and spiritual application within AA, then great, but I am not sure how they would allow that to continue if the leaders of AA became known you were speaking out against the program. I told her, I know, but it has nothing to do with with you telling me, but rather it was already the Fathers will for me not to come back after this. Celebrate Recovery is a Christ-centered ministry of discipleship and healing designed to help adults and families overcome different struggles in life as they grow together in a relationship with God. There is a saying I have heard often, which goes something like this, In my mens small group I couldnt talk about my struggle, and at AA, I couldnt talk about my Savior, since the program speaks in more secular terms about a Higher Power, he told CT in 2016. The atmosphere had changed, and I could sense the Spirit strong with me, and guided my every step. What partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? Both founders, Bill Wilson, and Bob Smith were heavily involved in practicing necromancy, performing seances, using the Ouija board, seeking spirits, and allowing a practice in the occult called automatic writing. Who am I? Just as those in Acts burned their magic arts, so should the Alateen/Alanon and AA books be destroyed. So if I forgive God, then that makes Him limited and also makes mistakes? Perhaps if you took the time to look into this further, you might begin to see a lot of the deception surrounding this, as while I do appreciate your comment, and believe it to be sincere, the deception is still very strong. The Dangers of AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) and Celebrate Recovery. Sustained and personal exertion necessary to conform to Gods will. Perhaps, in learning these truths, God might want you to share this with others; and yes, while you are correct, it might, and probably will offend. The desire of alcohol is a lust of the flesh. Forest Brook Community Church. Structured as an ongoing 52-week program, The Landing aims to help hurting teenagers get closer to Jesus as they learn key principles based on the Beatitudes to live a . Turning our will over to Higher Power. It is like taking a pile of poop, and placing the Bible on top. Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, NOR DRUNKARDS, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. Or perhaps a sort of alternative that is more Christ centered such as Celebrate Recovery? Blessings! Other than that they all denied Him, and His Word, and praised the 12-step program, based upon AA. True sobriety is not only having control over the body, but also the mind. However, as she began the meeting, she had decided for the other group leader to go first who was sitting to my left. I lived at AA and Alanon meetings for years and was helped tremendously and then almost completely stopped. (BSB), John 10:1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. I was also told that alcoholism is a disease, and that once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic. However, what is the true motive of this program, what is it's foundation, and is it suitable for those who profess to be walking with Messiah? This is a process of maturity and growth in the Lord. Once those who were fully crucified with Christ, and their passions and desires of the flesh, they too were set free from drunkenness. The Celebrate Recovery Step Studies use the 12 Steps with their biblical comparisons and the eight principles that are based on the Beatitudes. Celebrate Recovery has moved to Community of Hope Church on Thursdays at 6:15PM. Celebrate Recovery roots the 12 steps in biblical principles, and its final step charges participants to use their recovery to spread the good news. We will all stand before the judgement seat of the Lord, and give an account of our lives. Moving forward to my last few months at CR, Yah had revealed to me the full truth surrounding AA, as well as the foundation that Celebrate Recovery was built upon. This is why people become deceived and un-willing to accept that possibility. 3525. nph Subscribe to CT
Thank you for your obedience. Problems of intellectuality and self-sufficiency. Sam, thank you for commenting. I am so glad to hear of the insights that you have received from the Holy Spirit pertaining to this program. At Southside Baptist Church, the purpose of our Celebrate Recovery program is to both fellowship and celebrate God's healing power in our lives through 12 Steps and 8 Recovery Principles. As they had all turned their backs on Yeshua/Jesus and His Word, they then had no problem turning their back on me. The Participant Guides are designed to create movement through the steps as each person is on a healing journey that creates new understanding and hope through the work of the Holy Spirit, and not . We are called to be in the world, but not of the world. At Landmark Recovery, we are happy to help you find a support system that meshes with your belief system.
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